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Sunday, September 25, 2011

A Foreign Complex


19 comments:

lata.varma said...

This may be because state protects both children and senior citizen with the result they feel a lot more empowered. However, a mentally strong parent can overcome language barrier to be able to be authoritarian when required.

Anonymous said...

>> Why a colourful Hindu ceremony should create a “bad impression” anywhere except in Nehru’s mind was never made clear

May be because of govt direct involvement/intervention and open display of brahminical religiosity by govt. while caste issues remain.


>> It was that gloom that easily translated into cultural submissiveness

Dont forget that this is the language of upper caste. The dalits/locaste have always faced cultural/social submissiveness in their own nation. In fact, these sections feel relieved from that submissiveness outside India.

>> .. United States denying Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi a visa in 2005. The administration relied excessively on inputs from NGOs and other bodies that were by no means disinterested upholders of the good.

By that logic, any opponent of Hitler or Jinnah is just political opponent and not 'disinterested upholders of the good'? Even assuming a polical opposition, does that invalidate the point being made? That there is a violent streak of hindutva, which showed up in many riots, terror acts etc (1992, Guj 2002, Orissa, Samjautha etc) is a casue of concern. This is ideologically driven, perpetuating violence that is still alive (like the islamist terror). And of the hindutva violence, Gujarat 2002 is the case of that ideology being fully in power, where CM/colleagues and the larger hindutva fraternity gave hate-speeches, justified etc. Much of that continues to this day in various hindutva forums, social media etc. No remorse to this day.

Anupam Deb said...

Our craving for foreign certification is well known. We may recall that Indian Govt. decided to bestow Bharatratna to Satyajit Ray posthumously after he won an honorary Oscar for life-time achievement. So was the case with Amartya Sen, he was awarded Bharatratna after he became a Nobel Laureate. Whether this mentality would change with the young generation is not clear. There are many who still hold the "West is best" belief!

Anonymous said...

I am surprised we Indians take pride in our heritage , culture , discovery of Zero etc. And still divide needlessly one global unit as West versus East.

Betraying even basic science , physics has gone over our heads. It is only we the Indians who are such perennial crybabies.

My West is someone else's East.

My North is someone else's South.

Great Indians indeed:-((

Often I feel so many Saints & Sages have appeared only in India because we the sanctimonious Indians probably have dull obdurate intellect & insurmountable hubris.

Anonymous said...

@Anupam Deb,

I strongly feel for someone like Sathyajit Ray , a Bharatrathna would have bestowed no joy at all.

When Pithukuli Murugadas was conferred some such Padmashri or Padmabhushan , I told him :-

" Don't you feel insulted , this Indian President knows nothing at all about Thiruppugazh is going to mutter some words & give you Padma.....? It is the same Indian government that imposed a total ban on all your songs just because you gave a concert in South Africa".

That ban proved extremely damaging for Tamilians like me. Those Thiruppugazh hymns & his own impromptu renderings are not available anywhere AT ALL. He himself does not have them.

God Bless Srilankan Tamils who diligently broadcast them in their Radio Ceylon that we could listen to in Calcutta through staccato crackling radio waves.

Tamil Nadu with its atheism pursuit as official policy had no trace of his songs then.

Even buffaloes moo sparingly & melodiously. But those people in Tamil Nadu when queried about Thiruppugazh of Pithukuli Murugadas by me would respond:-

" haen haen haenhaen ennangamadamwhatmadamwhaatmadamhaenhaenhaen".

Anonymous said...

@Anupam Deb,

I strongly feel for someone like Sathyajit Ray , a Bharatrathna would have bestowed no joy at all.

When Pithukuli Murugadas was conferred some such Padmashri or Padmabhushan , I told him :-

" Don't you feel insulted , this Indian President knows nothing at all about Thiruppugazh is going to mutter some words & give you Padma.....? It is the same Indian government that imposed a total ban on all your songs just because you gave a concert in South Africa".

That ban proved extremely damaging for Tamilians like me. Those Thiruppugazh hymns & his own impromptu renderings are not available anywhere AT ALL. He himself does not have them.

God Bless Srilankan Tamils who diligently broadcast them in their Radio Ceylon that we could listen to in Calcutta through staccato crackling radio waves.

Tamil Nadu with its atheism pursuit as official policy had no trace of his songs then.

Even buffaloes moo sparingly & melodiously. But those people in Tamil Nadu when queried about Thiruppugazh of Pithukuli Murugadas by me would respond:-

" haen haen haenhaen ennangamadamwhatmadamwhaatmadamhaenhaenhaen".

Anonymous said...

I also agree with the comments of Anonymous @6:02AM.

Anonymous said...

The urge, in India, to be validated by the Western societies or governments is understandable. Many other Asian countries and societies have similar issues. Believe it or not, many Americans crave for similar validation from societies in Europe, especially in the fields of art, cuisine and policy making.

Anonymous said...

The kids who grow up in foreign countries want to be part of the mainstream culture of that society. Because of their experiences in schools and colleges, they are well equipped to be so. Moreover, they also want to break free from the suburbs , or worse ghettos, where they grow up where almost everyone comes from the same country or the similar culture.

Meanwhile, the migrant parents, in the absence of support from others in the society, tend to wilt before culturally different children. I think these complexes play out in any first generation migrant family.

Anonymous said...

It is Indians alone that have this unhealthy tendency that everyone else in this world owes them apologies & expiations.

For what ?? If born with dark skin they would blame the fair skiined ones. Did the fair complexioned create the dark skinned people ? Or our Maker? If the dark skinned are so pained & unable to ACCEPT & like themselves it only betrays their own hatred of dark skin.

And they keep repeating fair skinned Anglo Saxons are "racist".

Kudos to Swami Omkarananda of Theni Chidbhavananda Ashramam who said :-

" I suppose I need to wear new coloured robes christening myself ACCEPTAANANDHA , thus drawing all those wounded feelings people with various complexes handing over the following mantra " Om I accept myself Om I accept myself ".

Anonymous said...

It is Indians again of all castes, denominations including film stars & certain swollen headed columnists like Shobhaa De who are full of HUBRIS. That they alone are the custodians of all beauty , grace , art , dance , music yadayada.

I have seen many of them in close proximity. And hence not at all enamoured of them.

Jayalalitha is is one RARE exception among the crowd of film idiots fraternity.

From her teens I found her far far superior & mature than many including Cho.Ramaswamy. Mohan Kumaramangalam was absolutely right when he stated " Jayalalitha is being manipulated by certain very harmful influential people ".

Let us not forget Mohan Kumaramangalam was " eliminated " in Apollo Hospital.

Anonymous said...

It is Indians again of all castes, denominations including film stars & certain swollen headed columnists like Shobhaa De who are full of HUBRIS. That they alone are the custodians of all beauty , grace , art , dance , music yadayada.

I have seen many of them in close proximity. And hence not at all enamoured of them.

Jayalalitha is is one RARE exception among the crowd of film idiots fraternity.

From her teens I found her far far superior & mature than many including Cho.Ramaswamy. Mohan Kumaramangalam was absolutely right when he stated " Jayalalitha is being manipulated by certain very harmful influential people ".

Let us not forget Mohan Kumaramangalam was " eliminated " in Apollo Hospital.

Anonymous said...

One such extremely popular Indian female dancer ( Bharathanatyam , Kathak , Odissi all knowing expert)who I have always liked for her finesse & perfect performances came crashing down in my mind for the following reasons.

She has had her share of encomiums both within India & abroad including all over Europe ( France particularly & AmericAAAAAA also)drooled over by many males & females still for her well maintained vital statistics.

Ofcourse all these Indian artistes invariably con themselves & rest that they are all seeking merging/union/coupling with The Lord through their art.

In in interview she angrily burst out targetting the West & non Indians :-

" You better learn to accept us on OUR terms ...don't be racist...".

She being a PERFECT dancer swayed many sanctimonious Indians with appropriate gestures of her well manicured fingers & homespun ethnic sarees. Flanked by ethnic matkas , pots , Nataraja Statues, incense sticks made by swadeshi brigade.

A heady toxic cocktail of Indians' needless hubris.

Anonymous said...

Kudos to China who know Indians far better than naive Americans & Arabs.

In their Olympics China did not invite a single Indian dancer or costume provider. And proved they are NOT anti India as we like to con ourselves as Abhinav Bindra & many won some medals.

And Chinese women & men are so graceful , lissome , smart. Their dress sense was so soothing to the eyes. Pastel shades juxtaposed sparingly with deep royal blues , scarlets etc .

I was so happy. Silently China gave the most resounding slap to Indians.

Anonymous said...

I am sorry . Rangarajan Kumaramangalam was " eliminated " by allopaths in Apollo Hospital.

Mohan Kumaramangalam died in Caravelle Plane crash in Bombay along with IAS officer Kausalya Narayanan whose novel " Vaazhvaith Thaedi " got abruptly aborted in Dinamani Kadhir. Playback singer Ranichandra & one actress of Badhrakali also died in that plane crash.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @9:29 PM,

Those Indians who thrive by WILTING,WORRYING & SIGHING DEEP SIGHS have always been surviving likewise be they in any part of the world. Again , don't resort to America bashing so craftily.

When boys wore bell bottomed pants & grew side burns WITHIN INDIA , parents WILTED, WORRIED & SIGHED.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @9:29 PM,

Those Indians who thrive by WILTING,WORRYING & SIGHING DEEP SIGHS have always been surviving likewise be they in any part of the world. Again , don't resort to America bashing so craftily.

When boys wore bell bottomed pants & grew side burns WITHIN INDIA , parents WILTED, WORRIED & SIGHED WITHIN India.

Interestingly when some youngsters in India evince interest in Sri.Omkarananda's classes , unctuous vegetarian parents are going ballistic , asking them to aim for entry into IIT ,MBBS & computer sciences.

Anonymous said...

I know of one such mother vegetarian pious Tamilian regular visitor to many Temples & Navarathiri pujas betel leaves distributor who GLARED at me categorically speaking the following words & slamming the door in my face:-

" I DON'T want my son to become a Rishi Muni. So please don't give this book to him. So what if he asks you repeatedly to lend him this book ".

And that book was Dasaavathara of Lord MahaVishnu.

BUT very important. Like the typical Indian parent who steal , lie & cheat she DID NOT return my book on Dassavathara.

I ABHOR Indians wholesale. Most of them I have interacted with have behaved similarly.

No wonder Sir.Walter Scott sums up Indians best:-

" They are excellent book keepers but very poor accountants ".

satyam said...

bravo!!!!!