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Sunday, December 2, 2012

Ayodhya 20 years later: An almost revolution


By Swapan Dasgupta

Those of us who watched the last remaining dome of the Babri shrine collapse in a haze of red smoke at 4.45 pm on December 6, 1992, amid the exhilaration of a frenzied crowd were fully conscious aware that we were witnessing something momentous.

To those who had fuelled a movement that had both galvanised and polarised India as never before, the demolition was akin to the storming of the Bastille—possibly heralding the collapse of the ancien regime and the dawn of a new age. That night, sweets were distributed by people celebrating the liberation of Ram lalla from 364 years of bondage and indignity.   

To the liberal intelligentsia that had resolutely opposed mass mobilisation in the name of faith, the sound of euphoric kar sevaks was akin to the stomping jackboots from a relatively more recent, but equally troubled, chapter of European history. When they assembled in Delhi the following morning with placards proclaiming “sharam se kahon mein Hindu hoon”, they angrily lamented a perfidious assault on the very foundations of the Indian Republic.

Both sides of this great Indian rift were united on one point: life after that fateful December 6 would never be the same again. For months thereafter as riots and explosions scarred many cities, this seemed a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Twenty years later, the hastily written obituaries of the Republic seem rash and premature. Ayodhya was certainly an important landmark of independent India, perhaps as momentous as the Emergency, the Mandal report or the liberalisation Budget of 199. But was it more than that? Did the Ayodhya years lead to a rupture with the past?

The definitive answer must wait a few more decades. For the moment, Ayodhya remains an almost revolution, a turning point in history when (to borrow AJP Taylor’s imagery) history refused to turn. History is not an abstraction that follows pre-determined scientific laws: it is about human behaviour. In December 1992, the emotional temperature was high enough for the country to become delirious with both rage and anticipation. Why did this apparently pre-revolutionary mood recede and why did India limp back to normalcy?

The answers are at best convoluted. The agitation to build a grand temple honouring Ram’s exact birthplace at the site of a mosque built by a Mughal general in 1528, was only partially religious. Had the movement been driven by blind faith alone, it would have not only have endured but become even more passionate which it clearly did not. Nor was it shaped by a frenzied desire to right the wrongs of history. Had that been the case, many more Ayodhyas  would have mushroomed across India.

In hindsight, the Ayodhya agitation appears strongly reactive: as an antidote to movements that sought to either dismember India (Khalistani and Kashmiri separatism) or fracture it into sectional compartments (Muslim assertiveness over the Shah Bano judgment and V.P. Singh’s Mandal move). In rallying round a proposed temple, it sought to create a pan-Hindu identity that would serve as both a vote bank and basis of nationhood. Both these endeavours have registered patchy success.

There were subsidiary currents as well. The most notable (and possibly most enduring) of these was the movement’s robust questioning of the dominant Nehruvian view of secularism. The Ayodhya stir didn’t receive any significant support from the traditional centres of intellectual activity. Yet, a galaxy of establishment figures ranging from retired bureaucrats and generals to writers such as V.S. Naipaul, Nirad Chaudhuri and Girilal Jain saw the movement as a great ‘awakening’. Ironically, for a movement that projected a distinctly pre-modern exterior, the intellectual impulses that guided its politics were more contemporary. Inherent to the movement was a desire to discard the ‘differentiated nationality’ that governed India’s official secularism and replace it with an idea of common citizenship that would do away with ‘minorityism’.

Ayodhya no longer agitates India as passionately as it did 20 years ago. There is all-round agreement that the property dispute can fester indefinitely in the Supreme Court. But there is something deeply symbolic about the heavily-fortified makeshift temple that sprang up 20 years ago that serves as a reminder that the last word on the subject is yet to be said.

Sunday Times of India, December 2, 2012

38 comments:

Luqmaan said...

Dear Swapan, should you not point that the ayodhya movement was an orchestrated political movement and not really spontaneous.
Lukhman

Anonymous said...

Ayodhya movement was CERTAINLY no "orchestrated political movement ".

Strange both converted christians & converted muslims of India along with their respective political goons ALWAYS ride roughshod over us HINDUS & for the first time there was some worthy reaction from self respecting HINDUS. Secooolar India Today to several useless tamil tabloids started screaming (sic)
" rise of militant hinduism". Kollywood pornstar alleged tambram Iyengar condemned it calling the babri masjid " saritharathin pokkisham" ( priceless treasure of history). When others suffer the converted muslims shrug away with INSHALLAH. So alleged babri masjid
crumbling down ALSO IS INSHA ALLAH!!!

And it was no masjid but OUR OWN SRI.RAM TEMPLE. "We Hindus only rearranged the structure of our Temple" (Varsha Bhosle)

I HAVE always strongly felt it is V.S.Naipaul who deserves a Bharath Rathna for fearlessly expressing himself.

Wimpy Advani a protege of weak kneed Vajpayee ( both were renamed by equally Bharath Rathna deserving Varsha Bhosle as Hajpayee & Hadvani)said "he hung his head in shame".

They are NEVER going to give up their unfair arm twistings as long as congress & its allies exist in this world.

Why not govern Bharath according to OUR Dharma Shastrams? A scintillating brilliant start has actually come from Sri.Narendra Modi. Not just ban on cow slaughter but ban on evangelicals'
conversions too.

Smt.Jayalaithaa DID attempt ban on animal slaughter within Hindu Temples & ban conversions. But was forced to roll back both. I was & am APPALLED none other than RSS Gurumurthy spoke in support of animal slaughter within Hindu Temples.

They invariably band together citing their shared ideology UMMAH & unleash brutalities vandalism should some unknown English movie is rumoured to contain something not acceptable to their belief systems.

WHY should us Hindus continue to remain suckers & such useless idiots ??

Anonymous said...

With all due respect, the point of comparing the demolition of Babri mosque with the storming of Bastille is not easy to assimilate, I would love a reply if you Sir, have time for it .

Anonymous said...

Sri.Narendra Modi is one such HINDU who cannot be tied exclusively to Gujarat alone but the whole of India comprising of Hindus.

Incorruptible to start with. This is no mean achievement.

Whether Modi desires or not HINDUS of India overwhelmingly WANT him to steer the Nation ahead. I read in Narendra Modi's Gujarat nobody uses stabilizers. That bowled me over. As only in Gulf countries apart from the developed West you hear of such wonders.

Muslims of Gujarat are happy with him. However beware , muslims from rest of India including Tamil Nadu are full of die hard hatred towards Narendra Modi forever harping on riots. Conveniently glossing over well orchestrated ARSON of Hindus by them.

When Sushma Swaraj suggests his name as Prime Minister of India they come up with only negative comments. We HINDUS don't exist to appease such inimicals. Multiculti different paths of reaching God is a crafty way of hijacking Statecraft itself.

Hindus should focus on ISRAEL , America , China , Japan , Europe,UK. As a first step disable congress & dmk. Arab countries themselves are very smart. They don't want to suffer debauched corrupt Indians whatever be their religion. It is only in India these two fanatical groups (evangelicals bolstered converted christians & converted muslims) flex their muscles.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

One possible reason why the issue of minorityism no longer invokes the same anger as it used to is the betrayal by the BJP, after all didn't Advani describe the day of Babri demolition as the saddest day of his life? However it looks like the monster of minorityism has only bigger and more dangerous, as evident from the destruction unleashed by it when it briefly reared its head during the Azad Maidan violence. With BJP have lost all its credibility from its actions during the time it was in power, the passionate and worried supporters of BJP have now turned to Modi whom they see as the only one who can save them from this monster. No wonder that current Internet discussions are always between Congress and "Modi" supporters, and not between Congress and "BJP" supporters. The Ayodhya movement seems to have evolved into "Modi" movement.

-Pessimist.

Anonymous said...

Hindus of India must be really tired of so called preparedness to face ire of muslims every year on Dec 6 petitely called " babri demolition day " deploying lot of riot police.

It is the fault of hindus we not only cave in but also ALLOW them to nurture such unwarranted wounded feelings. Lots of Hindu Temples have been razed down completely. One famous Saraswathi Temple in Madhya Pradesh comes to my mind as our Kaanchi MahaPeriyavar Himself has dwelt at length on the mighty significance of that Hindu Temple usurped by muslims. It is again muslims that have been unfairly mollycoddled by Digvijay Singhs & such secoolar charlatans.

Think of the enormous STRESS caused. I can very well imagine how Sri.Narendra Modi must be feeling forever asked to apologise for " riots" which were ALSO INSHA ALLAH.

Only lasting solution is for Hindus to forge solidarity relinquishing appeasement & apologies. All the wounded should be asked to quit India for Timbactu , Libya , Iraq , Nigeria.
Thus they cannot have the cake & eat it too WITHIN Hindus' Bharath.
Same for converted christians.
They can quit India for Vatican & Portugal.

Good fences alone make good neighbours.

Anonymous said...

The enduring legacy of Ayodhya is rise of Hindu Nationalism to the mainstream of Indian politics. Here are the facts that colloborate the rise of Hindu Nationalism and decline of Pseudo secularism.
The Hindu nationalism (BJP/Jan Sangh) was confined to Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Himachal Pradesh, Delhi with fringe presence in Gujarath, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Maharashtra. Consider the effects after 1992.
1) Congress has never won in Gujarath after 1992 and unlikely to win any time soon.
2) Karnataka ( Original precursor to Hindu Nationalism in the form of Vijayanagar empire) has become southern saffron stronghold. In 1992 BJP had 4 MLAs but now control all major cities and apart from state govt. Whatever may happen in state assemly election BJP will continue to have a strong presence in parliament from Karnataka.
3) Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Himachal Pradesh have turned much more saffron and the states like Maharashtra, Jharkhand, Bihar have significant presence of Hindu Nationalism. Even North East state of Assam elects BJP members of Parliament.
The future is very bright for Hindu Nationalism in India. The slogan Ek Dakha Aur Do Babri Masjid Tod Do may apply appropriately to the last vestige of ancient regime of Dynasty controlled congress. The congress rules few states like Maharastrha not because it is strong but Hindu Nationalists are more divided while it rules states like Kerala more due to minority votes.
BJP recovered from just 2 seats in parliament in 1984 and for last 6 elections it has always been in triple digits from 118 to 182 seats. It will be interesting to watch whether congress will survive if its seat tally in parliament gets below 100 seats and it loses major states like Maharashtra and Rajasthan and probably Delhi and Andhra Pradesh. What it leaves congress with states like Kerala, Assam and Haryana. I donot have crystal ball but that will be the case inspite of main stream media's hostility to BJP.

Anonymous said...

I am rather tired beyond words hearing about "moderates" posing no problem to Hindus & that only few "misguided" among indian muslims indulging in arson , violence etc.

Their IDEOLOGY is INIMICAL to HINDUS' VEDIC ETHOS. This CANNOT be solved through negotiations & appeasements. Or employment generations as is the current scenario in Gujarat.

We HINDUS don't take to arson , violence & Temples attacking when beset by problems in life including unemployment etc.

Why should we HINDUS insist on this dangerous "co-existence". It only helps the congressis & secoolar charlatans like paswans, lalu yadavs, mulayam singh yadavs,deve gowdas etc. ALL TOXIC TRASH. That India OUGHT to get rid of.

They can co exist without rioting & sans wounded feelings ONLY among THEIR OWN fellow religionists elsewhere. That way these converted muslims have lots of countries like Timbactoo , Libya, Syria,Iraq, Somalia, Egypt, Nigeria etc etc.

We HINDUS have only our Bharath.

Hence makes enormous sense to ask them to quit along with manirathnams, suhasinis,leftists,shah rukh khans & SM KRISHNAS ALSO.

It is HINDUS' very security & lasting PEACE that should be the focus of HINDUS. Not interfaith discussions charades.

Same applies for converted christians among Indians.I know they are the repositories of "christian compassion & holy ghosts" yada yada full of secretarial skills to run corporate houses multitasking as irresistible paramours to secoolar hindu bosses.

Let them carry on such pursuits in Vatican , Portugal etc. Along with Odisha's Patnaiks & Nitish Kumarlike wily secoolaars.

Anonymous said...

I am rather tired beyond words hearing about "moderates" posing no problem to Hindus & that only few "misguided" among indian muslims indulging in arson , violence etc.

Their IDEOLOGY is INIMICAL to HINDUS' VEDIC ETHOS. This CANNOT be solved through negotiations & appeasements. Or employment generations as is the current scenario in Gujarat.

We HINDUS don't take to arson , violence & Temples attacking when beset by problems in life including unemployment etc.

Why should we HINDUS insist on this dangerous "co-existence". It only helps the congressis & secoolar charlatans like paswans, lalu yadavs, mulayam singh yadavs,deve gowdas etc. ALL TOXIC TRASH. That India OUGHT to get rid of.

They can co exist without rioting & sans wounded feelings ONLY among THEIR OWN fellow religionists elsewhere. That way these converted muslims have lots of countries like Timbactoo , Libya, Syria,Iraq, Somalia, Egypt, Nigeria etc etc.

We HINDUS have only our Bharath.

Hence makes enormous sense to ask them to quit along with manirathnams, suhasinis,leftists,shah rukh khans & SM KRISHNAS ALSO.

It is HINDUS' very security & lasting PEACE that should be the focus of HINDUS. Not interfaith discussions charades.

Same applies for converted christians among Indians.I know they are the repositories of "christian compassion & holy ghosts" yada yada full of secretarial skills to run corporate houses multitasking as irresistible paramours to secoolar hindu bosses.

Let them carry on such pursuits in Vatican , Portugal etc. Along with Odisha's Patnaiks & Nitish Kumarlike wily secoolaars.

Anonymous said...

Much more than dengue mosquitoes it is the relentlessly refusing to go away "wounded feelings infested indian muslims" & their UNQUENCHABLE thirst for APOLOGIES from Hindus that troubles me.

For these "wounded indian muslims" Libya's Gadaffis to several international muslims would be ready to extend support, weapons etc.UN would be ever ready to turn it into a big cause showering peace prizes wounded minds healing touches & ointments.Shashi Tharoors would also unhesitatingly pitch in.

It is time Hindus realize there is NO CURE at all for these "wounded muslims of india". MJ.Akbars also cling to this "wounded psyches of indian muslims".

Burmese muslims HAVE already become VOTEBANKS in India. I thought Aaaan Saaaan Soooo Cheeees would nurse the wounded rohingya muslims of Myanmar.

ALAS no. Secooolaarly ample bosomed india has again come forward as the cadaverous sleaziest SLUT to suckle these wounded rohingya muslims of Myanmar.

Aaaaan Saaan Soooo Cheeee has run away with some Peace Trophy.

Anonymous said...

Much more than dengue mosquitoes it is the relentlessly refusing to go away "wounded feelings infested indian muslims" & their UNQUENCHABLE thirst for APOLOGIES from Hindus that troubles me.

For these "wounded indian muslims" Libya's Gadaffis to several international muslims would be ready to extend support, weapons etc.UN would be ever ready to turn it into a big cause showering peace prizes wounded minds healing touches & ointments.Shashi Tharoors would also unhesitatingly pitch in.

It is time Hindus realize there is NO CURE at all for these "wounded muslims of india". MJ.Akbars also cling to this "wounded psyches of indian muslims".

Burmese muslims HAVE already become VOTEBANKS in India. I thought Aaaan Saaaan Soooo Cheeees would nurse the wounded rohingya muslims of Myanmar.

ALAS no. Secooolaarly ample bosomed india has again come forward as the cadaverous sleaziest SLUT to suckle these wounded rohingya muslims of Myanmar.

Aaaaan Saaan Soooo Cheeee has run away with some Peace Trophy.

Anonymous said...

Every flow tide is inevitably followed by an ebb tide.

Similarly should India including prosperous Gujarat face some problems trust the muslims of India to resume cow slaughter along with slaughtering of some hindus. Should congress , dmk , leftists & tehelka team continue to exist trust them to goad these muslims to do so.

Whereas HINDUS would never do that.

But sagarika ghoses & jairam rameshes would support them spitting verbiage like freedom of choice , hinduism is a way of life etc. For congressis toilets are holier than Temples. So would scream cows exist to cater to the hunger of dispossessed wounded equal opportunities denied that caste this caste.....bollykolly would make movies dealing with eradication of casteism.

Do remember the uber suave leftist prannoy roy of ndtv brother in law of prakash karat owns a large meat exporting slaughter house business. Very much including BEEF. Exporting to Gulf countries ALSO. In benami names.

This was all exposed in detail by Smt.Maneka Gandhi several years ago. And how India spends exorbitant amounts in importing cow dung from European countries.

A woman muslim devotee of Kaanchi Shankaracharya while driving home the importance of giving up slaughter of animals & cows was butchered to death by fellow Indian muslims.

I would not be surprised if commissions of enquiries are still worrrrrking on it.

Anonymous said...

An experienced traditional Hindu farmer said the artificially bred allegedly huge quantities of milk producing cows are in no way beneficial to us except for procuring extra currency.

Their dung & urine DO NOT have the rich fertilizing qualities. Germans had long discovered pesticides free green pasture fed cows produced butter that is very heart friendly & very crucial for brain health.

Obviously Lord Krishna & His devotees must have consumed that kind of quality butter & creamy curds as we seldom hear of obesity concerns among them then.

Today the greed of medical tourism makes bangladeshis travel to India & Indian doctors ( including Shetty) ensuring beef,veal,mutton etc to keep them happy. When tsunami struck the rich fishermen community spurned varieties of rice & lentils offered FREE by idiot hindu samaritans demanding greasy spicy fish , mutton etc.
Indian IAS officers monitoring relief efforts justified such strident demands of "wounded tsunami victims".

Anonymous said...

Extremely SOS !!!

Arabs I maintain are no nonsense people unfettered by voteocracy secoolarism like Indians.More importantly corruption is never tolerated but PUNISHED.

They have long woken up to the credentials of bangladeshis. Hence denial of visas to bangladeshis in Kuwait.

But India's notoriety as for forgeries , fraudulent malpractices are well known to these bangladeshis.They approach fellow Indians in Kuwait asking them to help in procuring Indian passports for them. Citing the very familiar poverty so many mouths to feed back in bangladesh yada yada.

There are many Indians willing to oblige in Kuwait. Within India Indians behave differently.In Arab countries they bury all religious caste based faultlines banding together as south asians. Football, cricket, shared cuisine, language, ethnic affinities temporarily thaw even hindu muslim animosities.

As arrogant Indians invariably look down upon the native ARABS. Indians delude themselves they are indispensable & that their IT skills & accounting mathematical prowess alone contribute to the welfare of Arab countries.

I have observed dirty cheap political chicanery is something that comes very NATURALLY to most Indians as a whole. You can add crimes & misdemeanors ALSO to that.
Indians are anything but virtuous angels.

Anonymous said...

Extremely SOS !!!

Arabs I maintain are no nonsense people unfettered by voteocracy secoolarism like Indians.More importantly corruption is never tolerated but PUNISHED.

They have long woken up to the credentials of bangladeshis. Hence denial of visas to bangladeshis in Kuwait.

But India's notoriety as for forgeries , fraudulent malpractices are well known to these bangladeshis.They approach fellow Indians in Kuwait asking them to help in procuring Indian passports for them. Citing the very familiar poverty so many mouths to feed back in bangladesh yada yada.

There are many Indians willing to oblige in Kuwait. Within India Indians behave differently.In Arab countries they bury all religious caste based faultlines banding together as south asians. Football, cricket, shared cuisine, language, ethnic affinities temporarily thaw even hindu muslim animosities.

As arrogant Indians invariably look down upon the native ARABS. Indians delude themselves they are indispensable & that their IT skills & accounting mathematical prowess alone contribute to the welfare of Arab countries.

I have observed dirty cheap political chicanery is something that comes very NATURALLY to most Indians as a whole. You can add crimes & misdemeanors ALSO to that.
Indians are anything but virtuous angels.

Anonymous said...

Criminals filled corrupt congress truly feels threatened by Sri.Narendra Modi's popularity.

Hence has decided to project P.Chidambaram as their candidate for post of PM.It is reported greedy multinationals have a stake in engineering Chidambaram's victory as he has that harwardian facade.

Anonymous said...

Harvardian facade.

Many Indians including Tavleen Singh have always heaped praise on this P.Chidambaram as some extraordinary economist blah blah.

That he belongs to congress party suffices to bust this hype.

Anonymous said...

I would cite only two instances.

A Tamil speaking muslim from Tamil Nadu had just arrived in Kuwait as a driver.

Thanks to Cho.Ramaswamy & Gurumurthy people of Tamil Nadu are also overwhelmingly fond of Sri.Narendra Modi.( His talks plus first hand independent unbiased reports about the State of Gujarat & Narendra Modi the PERSON's CREDENTIALS have been extensively reported in Tamil weekly Thuglak that really convinced me).

Hence I matter of factly talked about resurgent India under the rule of Sri.Narendra Modi- the total lack of water scarcity , power supply , people's upbeat confidence in Tamil to him.

Had he had even a whit of GRACE would have nodded in assent or said " YES".

On the contrary he made such an audaciously impertinent remark mentioning one upscale locality here where mostly Kuwaitis live telling:-

" You should go to ......if you want to see good roads , uninterrupted power blah blah ".

I have been living in Kuwait for approximately more than ten years & I know there is no water and power scarcity ANYWHERE in Kuwait.
I was NOT discussing Kuwait but India with him. And the new tamil indian muslim entrant talks this way.

This ATTITUDE is for REAL.It is CLEAR & PRESENT.

Anonymous said...

Another instance is about the converted indian christians.

They are positively SICK full of nothing but MALICE towards us Hindus.

Thank God the ORIGINAL Christians travelling to India in search of Ramana Bhagavan from Australia , Europe , Britain & America are FULL of nothing but GRACE & KNOWLEDGE.

These indian idiots embrace churchianity by accepting huge amounts of money, white goods etc etc haranguing about casteism , Aryan Dravidian gobbledygook.

One such nouveau-riche maidservant calling herself Philomena ( indian hideous looking like my pentacostal keralite headmistress Miss.Andrews a MENACING TYRANT)told me:-

" My caste & American George Bush's caste is same same".

Anonymous said...

Guys seriously where do you all live......in India????

Anonymous said...

Evangelicals are as much inimical to HINDUS as muslims are.
DO NOT forget Swami.Lakshmananda Saraswathi was shot to death in Orissa in cold blood while in His bath by maoists in cahoots with evangelicals. Indian media is virulently anti-Hindu. Hence obfuscated by calling it intercaste feuds.

Orissa ( Odisha)'s Naveen Patnaik is wily christian appeaser.

I read The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia has called for the demolition of ALL churches in Middle Eastern Islamic countries.

Makes a lot of sense.

For efficient & good governance inimical religions skirmishing in the name of coexisting NEVER works. Indian media , educational institutions have long been infiltrated by these insidious evangelicals. Secularism in India unequivocally means anti -HINDU , anti-VEDIC.


Every other country in this world is INSISTING on maintaining & preserving their IDENTITIY. Not multiculti mile sur mera tumhara nonsense.

Emirates for Emiratis they say. Libyan refugees seeking entry into Italy were DENIED by the people of Italy. Did not dilly dally mentioning constitution , humanitarian blah blah. Debauched bangladeshis are NOT welcome in Arab countries. The youngsters are fiercely proud of their culture & religion.

Only India under congress is one colossally dhimmi country as Nehru & Indira were all MUSLIMS. Indira married a MUSLIM. HINDU youth are the perfectly dangerous IDIOTS today. Still repeat (sic)TajMahal was built by moghals. This lie has long been busted . It was an ALREADY existing STRUCTURE Palace cum Ssiva Temple of Hindu Emperor that was USURPED by murderous moghals.

Anonymous said...

It is not just Ayodhya.

Take the case of Kerala.Infested with muslims , christians & atheistic leftists - all darlings of communalcongress.

Hence brazenly defied the diktats of OUR Kaanchi Shankaracharya & threw open Sri.AnanthaPadhmanabhaSwamy Temple.

What Subramaniam Swamy makes immense sense. Take away the voting rights of both muslims & christians WITHIN India. Let UK & USA scream lack of democraceeee.

What we have been suffering is NO democracy. AND DEPORT them to their respective bleeding hearts endowed countries.Timbactu , Somalai , Portugal , Vatican , Burundi , Ethiopia, Nigeria etc etc

Anonymous said...

It is not just Ayodhya.

Take the case of Kerala.Infested with muslims , christians & atheistic leftists - all darlings of communalcongress.

Hence brazenly defied the diktats of OUR Kaanchi Shankaracharya & threw open Sri.AnanthaPadhmanabhaSwamy Temple.

What Subramaniam Swamy said makes immense sense. Take away the voting rights of both muslims & christians WITHIN India. Let UK & USA scream lack of democraceeee.

What we have been suffering is NO democracy. AND DEPORT them to their respective bleeding hearts endowed countries.Timbactu , Somalai , Portugal , Vatican , Burundi , Ethiopia, Nigeria etc etc

Anonymous said...

Various quarter baked "intellectuals" do immense harm with their specious sophistry laden diatribe to lull the well idiotised hindus.

There is this hindu called Suki Sivam. Very articulate in Tamil etc etc. I was appalled when he said the following:-

" Why fight in the name of religion...look at the pigeons sitting atop a Temple Tower. They have no problem flying & sitting atop a Mosque ...and then atop a Church....Thus my fellow hindus go & tonsure your heads in Thirupathi. Then go to Nagur Dargha & get your heads shaved. Then finally go to Velankanni Church & tonsure your head. How very easy to attain matha nallinakkam !!!! ( religious communal harmony)

Hindus are TRULY consummate incorrigible IDIOTS. They nod vigorously shedding tears of joy.

Anonymous said...

Muslims ALWAYS SCREAM God has no form & thus have consistently pillaged & usurped a LOT of Hindu Temples. They face the West & worship the Space in West.

Now comes the perils of voteocracy.
DMK has pampered both muslims & christians of Tamil Nadu to monstrous proportions.

For Hindus' Temples you seldom get unadulterated honey , rosewater etc etc. All FAKE stuff. Sandalwood Trees were all smuggled away by veerappan the dacoit protected by SM Krishna & DMK.

For decades some lousy gooey stuff mixed with synthetic sandalwood fragrance is applied to OUR LORD Parameshvara , MahaVishnu , TripuraSundhari etc.

Whereas muslims of Tamil Nadu have extorted sanction of FREE PURE SANDALWOOD in HUGE quantities. They are that smart did not ask for paste but PURE SANDALWOOD LOGGED & CARTED away by these muslims in TONNES. FREE. To be applied to formless God in the WEST????

Why not they GROW sandalwood trees with money pouring in from ISLAMIC countries instead of building more mosques ? Why not ask UMMAH to grow sandalwood & supply from Tibactoo , Somalia & Nigeria ????

Why should HINDU GODS & GODDESSES be deprived & cheated thus????

Anonymous said...

Certain words & phrases are purposely used by secoolars & non hindus that are so treacherous they enfeeble Hindus very deplorably.

" You hindus are tolerant"

" hinduism is a way of life"

" Hindus of India have always welcomed atheists & all kinds of enemies also"

" Hindus hospitality is such they will forego their meals even for their enemies to reserve a place in yonder heaven "

" India is a pluralistic democraceeeeee that a muslim can become president , a christian can become prime minister , an atheistic ROGUE can be the managing trustee of Hindu Temples....whAAATEYYYAAA countreee
VAAAATTTTAAA countreeeee tsk tsk tsk...."

Salman Rushdie bemoaned " once present tolerance is no more in India".

How could such ERUDITE rushdies not remember we HINDUS were & are always coerced agianst our WILL to show tolerance & accommodate INIMICALS. As the very Indian Establishment is anti-Hindus. It is a battle between unequals.

Hindus would not brandish a sword whereas with muslims that is NORMAL. Is it possible to truly coexist??

Wounded psyche MJ Akbar flatters Hindus by telling " India is such a democracy where muslims can also aspire for crucial PM President post blah blah ".

Please spare me such revolting flattery. QUIT INDIA & aspire to become President of Timbaktoo , Nigeria , Somalia , Saudi Arabia.PLEASE.

As a HINDU don't shove down my throat this "accommodation" & "tolerance". These breed hidden POTENT RESENTMENT.

Lots of secoolar idiots say "bismillah khan played shehnai & serenaded Lord Venkateshvara ".

What do they mean ?

Some Hindu devotee cannot serenade by playing some other instrument or by SILENCE ??

To my knowledge Lord Venkateshvara has never shed tears after the demise of bismillah khan wailing thus:- "without bismillah khan I am so miserable & depressed ".

The same Bismillah Khan irresponsibly produced too many children extorting lots of FREE FREE blah blah as appeasement of rare artists padma blah blah.JIZYA from Hindus.Ghulam Nabi Azad's wife yanked some padma blahblah.
Saeed Naqvi's wife complained of lack of milijhuli from Hindus.

Please QUIT Bharath & seek MILIJHULEEEES in Timbactu, Somalia, Nigeria , Libya , Iraq , Saudi Arabia , Burundi , Indonesia.

Anonymous said...

There was this Chera King who was listening to Ramayanam Upanyasam along with his subjects.

On hearing Sri.Rama's predicament after Seetha's abduction , the King stood up angrily & shouted:-

" What? Why is our Army sitting idle...let us all march at once to help Ari.Rama cross the ocean....."

Later The same Chera Ruler became Kulasekara Aazhvaar.

Juxtapose that with contemporary GODFORSAKEN congress ruled india attempting several times to break Ramar Paalam to appease TR.Balus & make filthy lucre.

Anonymous said...

Hindus of India are such despicable BEGGARS.

DMK has always been anti Hindu. Its motto is selective atheism. Ditto for kollywood pornstar iyengar alleged tambram kamalhassan.Both & many of their followers, supporters adhere to selective atheism.Deride, ridicule & deny VERY EXISTENCE to HINDU PANTHEON of GODS & GODDESSES but worship & grovel before churchianity & babri masjid ruins.

DMK always holds IFTAR party with converted muslims.

I abhor the hindus of Tamil Nadu for becoming heartbroken with this. Are we such beggars as to pine for thugs infested dmk to share modhaks on Vinayaka Chathurthi ?? Hindu Munnani RamaGopalan always whined & whinged missing this dmk of all:-((

As a Hindu , I would be ALARMED.

If I were to spot GOD FORBID , dmk thugs coming to eat modhaks or ask for a glass of water even I would panic like coming across RDX explosives or radioactive poisonous stuff.

Anonymous said...

Initially Bharathanatyam Dancer Dr.Padma Subramaniam reacted indignantly at dmk's vitriolic ridiculing of Sanskrit , Ramayanam etc etc.

Thank God for Sri.Ramana Bhagavan ALONE who PREVENTED me from running behind ANY dancers and/or singers or any indian celeb for that matter, I felt very grateful for not jumping onto the bandwagon of her save hinduism group.

As I found the same Dr.Padma Subramaniam & her troupe of dancers bowing & genuflecting before dmk thugs while "dancing" in Brahadeesvarar Temple at Thanjavur. They professed to dance in front of Lord Ssiva The Deity.

But actually thanked & thanked dmk thug profusely for giving them a chance to perfom yada yada.

Anonymous said...

Muslims of India should wake up to stark realities. The unfairly maligned Narendra Modi actually NEVER divides the people based on their religions. And that is exactly what I desire. One's CREDENTIALS alone count.

Whereas their own wily crook Farook Abdullah shook hands with diabolical crooks infested DMK who are allies of the UNMITIGATED crooks called Congress. So far muslims of India have also not truly benefitted under these people as they are not treated as equal citizens but votebanks to be harvested. Shabana Azmis & Shah Rukh Khans are not well intentioned people but dream merchants , mercenaries.
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#2 Vaidehi 2012-12-07 10:47
Mayavati, Mulayam , Laloo, entire Congress party, dmk --all these are heavily unpardonably CORRUPT & CRIMINALISED. We the people have never stood in unison demanding they be punished & NOT allowed EVER to contest in any election. As long as we the people condone & tolerate the aforementioned CRIMINALS all treacly talks of india shining by overhyped abdul kalams would only build up delusions of grandeur in the same criminals & their supporters.

Certainly Afzal Guru and / or Kasab are NOT criminals meriting punishment but congress & its allies.

Anonymous said...

Take the case of Tamil Nadu & its dmk who are allies of congress at the centre.

DMK MLAs are nothing but THUGS. Terrorists.Landgrabbing through forged documents , kidnappings , extortions , murders --the list would shock Kasab & Afzal Guru who are coerced into branding themselves as " terrorists".

Most of them are hindus.Worshippers of CRIME. Have they been sentenced to death? They have supporters among people including kollywood. And congress.

How could harvardian P Chidambaram profess ignorance of these well known facts & YET travel to AmericAAAAA spending taxpayers' money to learn the abcd of crime busting ????

Anonymous said...

Take the case of Tamil Nadu & its dmk who are allies of congress at the centre.

DMK MLAs are nothing but THUGS. Terrorists.Landgrabbing through forged documents , kidnappings , extortions , murders --the list would shock Kasab & Afzal Guru who are coerced into branding themselves as " terrorists".

Most of them are hindus.Worshippers of CRIME. Have they been sentenced to death? They have supporters among people including kollywood. And congress.

How could harvardian P Chidambaram profess ignorance of these well known facts & YET travel to AmericAAAAA spending taxpayers' money to learn the abcd of crime busting ????

Anonymous said...

Yesterday there is this young muslim boy student ( primary level) of Bhopal who gets beaten to death by two VIOLENT hindu teachers in Bhopal ruled by congress DigVijay Singh.

This GODDAMNED congress party has never seriously applied itself to addressing terrorism & violence unleashed by indian teachers & indian schools & colleges.And the evangelicals peddling churchianity.

Useless tehelkas & ndtvs only REPORT & do endless REPORTING.
Whereas both Narendra Modi & Jayalalithaa are doing a lot pro active. Narendra Modi needs no conduct certificate from tehelkas blah blah. It is time he is empowered to lead the nation called India.

From the first day I had a taste of indian school I have only prayed for it to be flattened by massive earthquake along with its teachers & headmistress etc. Mostly hindus & converted christians. Those days I never heard the word bomb blast. Or else would have PRAYED for that.

It is extremely important congress & its allies are exterminated out of this world.Along with evangelicals.

ONLY THEN, we the people can taste PEACE.

Anonymous said...

Evangelicals would never want to see peace & cordial relations between hindus & muslims of India.

Evangelicals pose the gravest threat worldwide NOT ISLAM.

Hence I am gratified CHINA has allied with Islamic countries. CHINA alone has the gumption to slam the door on the faces of evangelicals.
Hindus should befriend CHINA.

Allopathy , toxic drugs , toxic vaccines , landgrabbing through erection of churches , orphanages, industrialization of agriculture with ignoble intentions --all of it belongs to evangelicals.Indian mercenaries have no doubt joined hands with them.

All the countries these evangelicals have stepped in have had their indigenous cultures & traditions TOTALLY wiped out.

Anonymous said...

I have personally had bitter taste of these evangelicals' doublespeak & deceit.

Being a traditional brahmin was sent to one useless pedestrian school in Calcutta. The converted christian monsters & the convent educated yuppie monsters wrought HAVOC in the guise of teachers. The totally inept headmistress called M.R.Lalitha was useless beyond words. All besotted sickeningly with kollybolly trashy tripe.

They ridiculed my oiled hair , four plastic bangles , curd rice & pickle plus lack of English knowledge to such an extent I am wiser today.

Thank God , Sri.Narendra Modi has the vision to promote English , SELF RELIANCE , Technology , Agriculture etc WITHOUT relinquishing VEDIC HINDUS ROOTS.

The toxic communist hypocrites had only poverty to thrust upon us.

I am also EXTREMELY happy MUSLIMS in Gujarat are very tech savvy & actively involved in everything as equal citizens.

seema mustafas & sonia gandis would scream their lungs out.So what ?

Anonymous said...

I happened to come across one GREEK gentleman at Ramanashramam.

He was so full of pain , his words choked in his throat while mentioning about the loss of indigenous native culture , beauty & GRACE of GREECE by the excessively compassionate evangelicals in uplifting mode.

Thanks to my Calcutta Bengali Professor Malavika Ghosh the name of Xanthippe of GREECE came to my mind.I was also in pain & with too many people around could say nothing.

Anonymous said...

I happened to come across one GREEK gentleman at Ramanashramam.

He was so full of pain , his words choked in his throat while mentioning about the loss of indigenous native culture , beauty & GRACE of GREECE by the excessively compassionate evangelicals in uplifting mode.

Thanks to my Calcutta Bengali Professor Malavika Ghosh the name of Xanthippe of GREECE came to my mind.I was also in pain & with too many people around could say nothing.

Shayari said...

Modi is the only redemption for India - he is decisive, firm and Corrupt free and he is a also pragmatic Visionary - not the pure visionaries he sit and only visualize and do not make their vision a reality. MODI AS A PM OF INDIA will change the face of nation - he is the only hope we Indians have