Comments on Usual Suspects: What's in a word?

well said sudhir.u echo my thoughts.also remeber t...

2009-06-14T00:32:09.224+05:30

well said sudhir.u echo my thoughts.also remeber they were doing this all thru the camapign and before,pretty much a 24-7 agenda.reporting and undermining the bjp by cooking up exagerrations about bjp problems when they were not talking pink chaddi and muthalik under,u guessed it bjp state govts. modi was screaming vikas v votebank,ladli yojna,swiss bank for development etc.but that was hidden because that would hurt congress.

these guys are congressmen there is len den behind the scenes,bribes rewards etc between congress and elmedia.period.sonia singh of ndtv is a congress ministers wife.prannoy has oldtime congress-mms connections( he got his break from congress-dd from 80's.

that they are claiming neutrality frauding us and defaming bjp-modi hindus with false propaganda is disgusting.

u say The entire media acts as a watch dog of BJP even when it is in oppostion when it ought to act as the watch dog of the government.only in india truly

i have written this too and everything else u said and some get it,many dont.

beisdes blanking out major national issues,these guys have double standards against hindus and bjp and pro congress becaues they are on the payroll of anti-hindu forces worldwide such as evangelists and islamists who have the money-muscle to fund them and also because they lobby with this money.eg bush denyiong visa to modi from pressure form south asian muslims including pakistanis who deviously call themselves an areligous body just like teesta gang who are a front for these forces.media will hide teesta's visits to the usa to conspire against modi's visa.

this media does not report on cbse= madrasa degree,fatwa by mullahs against coed madrasas,owaisi who was let off by upa who is an ally but tasleema was banished and charged.

hindu leaders killed in orissa dont get justice and are hushed up but graham staines was drumbeatedworldwide even if dara singh was convicted expeditously.

Swapanda, here is the real icing on the cake, the...

2009-06-12T17:01:09.392+05:30

Swapanda,

here is the real icing on the cake, the newspapers are full of bjp top brass going for each others blood, it seems just a matter of time before it self-destructs. our forefathers had the fortune of seeing swatantrata party disintegrate, we will have the fortune of witnessing the spectacle of bjp disintegrating in front of our eyes. But they have only themselves to blame, if even novices like barkha and sagarika can have them nice and proper, they deserve to go back to school and fight for school-captainship. Finally, barkha, sagarika, arundhati, teesta, rajdeep, arnab, prannoy and the ilk will achieve their mission of bringing down bjp. Even “Bharat Ratna” cannot do justice to their this service to the nation. An old age saying was “behind every man’s success is a woman” the new age saying will be “ behind every man’s and political party’s success and failure is a bunch of women and a few men as well”. If that happens, we will be left with parties like dmk, tdp, pdp, agp, bjd, jdu, jmm, cpm, sp, bsp, shiv sena and akali dal in the name of opposition. You all can select one of them. I being from UP there are two strong contenders to chose from, sp and bsp, speak of spoilt for choices. We will once again be left with a virtual unipolar democracy of the pre 1989 era. I can’t wait to go back to the good old 80s complete with “inspector-licence raj” and “ration ki line”, i am already feeling nostalgic.

Sir, I am no great fan of either bjp or congress, however i thought a national opposition party is in India’s best interest. But if this is what our intelligentsia (if we have one i.e.) wants, then I am reassured that true to our traditions we Indians are the great masters of axing our own feet.

Anonymous >>8 out of 10 of its voters were ...

2009-06-12T16:51:12.302+05:30

Anonymous

>>8 out of 10 of its voters were "oh so modern" fatwa-bound muslims....my post is based on data and fact and not "wishwashy" soft subjective nonsense which changes with opinion.

I would like to see what data you have to back the first claim. I assume you are an engineering/going to be an engineer. Let us know how much better you are at analysis as compared to the liberal arty types towards whom you have so much disdain.

@Anonymous, as if election results are determined ...

2009-06-12T14:51:46.445+05:30

@Anonymous, as if election results are determined by campaigns alone. An all round correction is required. Campaigning comes at the end..it can't cure the inner rot. When there lack of ground work and organization building..it will show.

All those associated with BJP campaign must resign...

2009-06-12T13:32:39.254+05:30

All those associated with BJP campaign must resign.
And place in a new leadership in thier place.
Simple

Swapanda http://www.indianexpress.com/news/varuns...

2009-06-12T13:02:50.257+05:30

Swapanda

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/varuns-repugnant-words-did-bjp-greatest-damage/475230/0

Another dinosaur shares his muddled thought in the above link. Three errors one could right away notice are

(1) about Indian muslims being moderate is pure fiction - these are the moderate ones that created pakistan. That was when Barelvi islam was the dominant stain. Now with Wahabi/Deobandi investments, muslim moderation has gone further down the drain.

(2) Mishra's analysis on Karnataka is nauseating. (BJP had a thumping victory there)

(3) Modi hardly pushed Hindutva this elections.

Seems like Jaswant and co are venting their frustr...

2009-06-12T12:48:37.313+05:30

Seems like Jaswant and co are venting their frustration against the rise of jaitley.

While Jaitlet might have failed in LS elections, he has contributed a lot to the party by winning many state elections.

All the people who are sulking like Jaswant, Rajnath, MM Joshi have contributed nothing of that kind.

Jaitley is the best bet for BJP as the next President. Modern, smart and proven track record. The only downside is that he is not a mass leader but that's OK. Neither was Venkaiah.

Can we please stop this discussion about liberal a...

2009-06-12T10:41:06.834+05:30

Can we please stop this discussion about liberal arts vs. engineering types? Passmarks and Oxford/IIT degrees are not the only criteria for judging intelligence and morality.

Trust our Media to gang up against the law abiding...

2009-06-12T10:10:41.453+05:30

Trust our Media to gang up against the law abiding citizens like Advani, Jaswant Singh, Baba Ramdev, RSS etc. Never mind if all they can do against the Quattrochis and Musharrafs of this world who give two hoots to Indian Laws is "Roll them a Red Carpet". We Deserve Them.

Swapanda- your piece that appeared in the Telegrap...

2009-06-12T10:00:39.230+05:30

Swapanda- your piece that appeared in the Telegraph Calcutta is well taken. But situation in India and GB are not same.

HOW WILL BRITISH NEWSPAPERS BEHAVE SHOULD CONSERVATIVE/LABOR'S GENERAL SECRETARY APPEARS IN A NEWSCONFERENCE WITH THE SAME MULLAH WHO ANNOUNCED A PRICE ON US PRESEIDENT'S HEAD? (as was done by Digvijay Singh with that Mullah from UP during last general election).

HOW WILL BRITISH NEWSPAPERS BEHAVE SHOULD RULING PARTY GOES TO POLL WITH BIN LADEN LOOK ALIKE (Congress fought poll with Lalu/Paswan twice in 2005/6 with Laden lookalike)

While I don't support what Varun may have done, or BJP's handling of it- fact remains Congi/CPIM rallies/pampers even worse kind of minority identity/things for vote. But media keeps mum. WHY? WHY THEY ARE DARE NOT STANDUP?

As an Independent (but close to some of BJP's ideas) journo- I support you. BUT YOU ALSO SHOULD SPEAK UP IN YOUR WRITINGS AND TV DISCUSSION HOW BIASED MEDIA BEHAVES. They see religion of people and determine whether its to be aired/published.

Please tell me, how many times media has highlighted that the Missionary who is largely responsible for tension in Kandhamal (illegal conversion, fake caste certificate, stealing jobs etc) is actually a Congi Rajya Sabha Member?

BJP has not sent Togadia to Rajya Sabha last time I checked. WHAT IS YOUR FRIEND ORISSA CM DOING FOR ALL THESE YEARS?

While Charlie Chaplin's huge statue before a temple was opposed in coastal Karnataka, it became breaking news- but the actual demolition of a legally installed statue of Hanuman in Kanyakumari (because of Missionaries and weak state govt) made NO NEWS AT ALL.

The Statesman's editor and publisher were treated in worst possible manner, but it made no headline anywhere. Varun tape was shown some 60-70 hours in ONE SINGLE WEEK !

VOCAL ENGLISH MEDIA (print and TV) ARE WHOLLY WITHOUT ANY BALLS. HAVE NO GUTS TO TAKE A STAND.

National Flag was burnt, Gandhi's statue was broken, anti-national slogans were raised openly inside Valley last year- WHY NOBODY CARED TO SHOW?

We can give you 1000s of example like this.

Polemic based on religious identity of culprits is fueling worst kind of rapture amongst a growing section of people.

Media is digging its own grave by its double standard. Quite literally.

Jaswant Singh he has been traditionally against Hi...

2009-06-12T09:51:53.620+05:30

Jaswant Singh he has been traditionally against Hindutva. He & his son (in Barmer) have done Muslim appeasement. His son was playing with many Islamic Madrasas in Rajasthan to get a "secular" image. Jaswant Singh has done some good work as foreign minister (no doubt on that). He belongs to the coterie of Advani which says "Good governance doesn't need ideology". He has gone on record saying that he opposes Operation Parakram. Jaswant has written that he worked to cool down Indian reaction/anger after 2001 Parliament attack. He also wrote that India (Indians) should not get angry after Parliament attack. At every opportunity he takes a jibe at RSS.

Jaswant Singh goes to ndtv to give an interview on poll debacle and tell Barkha that BJP has to be “current”. (Indirectly hitting at ideology, RSS etc as usual) Yashwant Sinha has done that already. Already Brijesh Mishra is in ndtv saying Varun Gandhi & Modi are responsible for the defeat. Brijesh Mishra says “negative campaign didn’t work”.

Want to know what the hell is this “negative campaign didn’t work”. Talking about weak government, indecisive government, its failures in security, economy, and food issues are “negative”?

A former NSA says taking about failures in security are “negative campaign”. Now you know why there were some security failures/ attacks during NDA. One of the first guys to start this idea (defeat is because of “negative campaign”) was Sudheendra.

The problem is BJP took on lot of congress/ congress ideology guys in it ranks and top posts. Brijesh Mishra’s father was the Congress chief minister of Madhya Pradesh. Brijesh Mishra himself was a Nehru family person. Yashwant Sinha came to BJP suddenly in 90’s after being in Janata Dal and he also doesn’t want Hindutva. Sudheendra case is well known. All these people (Jaswant, Yashwant, Sudheendhra etc) want to appear nice in the “secular” media and want certificates from “seculars”. Why they want these certificates? – They want to be become leaders through media and not by actually working in field.

Just got to know the good work done done by Associ...

2009-06-12T09:48:53.506+05:30

Just got to know the good work done done by Association of Democratic Reforms(ADR). But their story about how they got it done was actually something that made me think..shouldn't I volunteer for them instead of a political party. The 'party with a difference' didn't come out even slightly different when you talk about criminalization of politics. Then why just have this debate about dumping Hindutva for a modern outlook? The NDA's outlook and actions cannot be called modern by any standards on this issue. It was interesting to know that all parties including the BJP and the Congress could find common ground in half an hour against the ruling that required candidates to declare their assets and criminal record. Wow!

otimer anon discussion English lit phds in the US...

2009-06-12T04:25:50.286+05:30

otimer anon discussion

English lit phds in the USA drive a taxi.That major is least in demand and so are the other liberal arts majors.In india they get jobs in the nepotistic congresss owned corrupt english media where they pretend to be intellectuals and write 20 articles fashionably blaming hindutva for bjp defeat when the fact is the congress won because 8 out of 10 of its voters were "oh so modern" fatwa-bound muslims and burkha clad women banned from attending coed education by mullahs.And yet bjp is not modern with ladli yojna and modi screaming and delievring on stellar development

and yet we are asked to watchout for muthalik while congress makes cbse = madrasa by liberal arts tribe.that is the level of falsehood and analysis that you inflated heads are capable of

liberal arts types would fail a language neutral logic test which a vernac would max and yet the snobs will be lecturing him and india on public matters.Stick to your art.

one arty guy did not have the civilized sense to respect the locals'rights by imposing a chaplin statue on them as if he owned that public property and the lib gang
joined him in bashing bjp govt in knataka.And there are thousnads of such egs that expose english fluent egotistic hypocrites and fashionable bjp-bashing fundoos who have no problems with osama look alikes and shahbano mullahs being used by the seculars.

stick to hard objective facts and logic instead of posting irrelevant quotes that do not make objective analysis.my post is based on data and fact and not arty wishwashy soft subjective nonsense which changes with opinion.

a good lsat,gmat,gre jee,cat analytical math score is not the same as subjective opinionation by the "full of themselves" arty tribe.go write fiction like arundhati roy insteda of spreding it against hindus,bjp,modi and pretentiously telling more intelligent others what to think.facts speak otherwise.just look at their overall school pass out marks if any one an appoint himself intellectual then why have tests at all.

oldtimer,so you agree with me that the liberal ar...

2009-06-12T04:24:23.512+05:30

oldtimer,so you agree with me that the liberal arts guys are not exactly analytical by training and endowment. 70s was no different,iit was prestigous and the pecking order for majors was similar.

Posting opinions from arty types about engineers does not alter facts and data.even sachin tendulkar would admit that he is bad at somethings and good at cricket.u are denigrating the endowments of all those who do well in analytical tests worldwide to get into competititive majors like
engineering,math,law,business,science unlike the least in demand liberal arts which does not require analytical and logic skills even at oxford.it knows the difference between scienec -engineering,business,law and english literature and what skills match what.

we were talking about elmedia which is filled with liberal arts guys when the analytically endowed can afford to choose other majors unlike english majors.We are not talking about one individual like swapan . And i commend swapan atleast for fighting ostracization and agree he is better than most.

the english media liberal arts guys controlling the media agenda against the bjp based on fashionable prejudice against bjp and so called hindutva to describe rational policies like civil code and 370 abrogation.This is falsehood and not facts and analysis which they have no clue about because of their majors like barkha (english lit),rajdeep and poster girls nandita and shobhade.They have no business talking down to readers from a congress controlled media.( off topic ndtv sonia singh's husband is a congress minister and there are many such eg prannoy got his first break from congress dd with sagarika's dad at helm and mms in finance.so what about fraudulent motives)

using loaded words like barbs and fixated ( better than being fixated with bjp-bashing using fashionable subjectives like hindutva of your liberal arts tribe) exposes an emotional stake unlike me who is talking objective factual analysis.i would applaud nandita or mahesh b for a film or barkha for well written novel or play.

The traits of the liberal arts english media eg ego,poor on knowledge of facts and bad analytical skills limited to congress good bjp bad,hindutva bad islamic votebank good,muslims good,hindus bad, leftwing good,rightwing bad etc
all fashionable pavlovian reflexes to belong to the club. you are trying to make this into one persons subjective opinion vs another.My point is objective tests worldwide prove that the requirement of logic and analyical skills is necessary for math-eng-science-commerce-business-law unlike majoring in english lit like barkha dutt who are doing motivated fashionable propagnada not based on facts and analysis which is beyond them

Swapan, Hindutva or No-Hindutva as long as percep...

2009-06-12T00:54:38.317+05:30

Swapan,

Hindutva or No-Hindutva as long as perception of the BJP does not change nothing is going to happen. The main stream media does not want this perception of BJP to change because they earn their bread and butter from this negative potrayal of BJP and this will continue.

Look what is happening currently. All media channels are fixated with BJP. Pick any main stream media and the main heading is "Knives drawn out in BJP" "Hindutva or Modi or Varun reason for defeat of BJP says so and so leader of BJP" or someother heading on similar lines.

Does that mean that everything in the country is hunky dory except the BJP. Is BJPs internal issues the greatest problem facing the country.

What this media has effectively achieved is shut out other important issues from the public. Why don't we hear more about the recruitment operation conducted by Madani or the threat posed by terrorists to Karnataka and Kerala. Or the shoddy handling of the rescue and relief efforts of cyclone Aila by WB government and Mamta Banerjee's interference. Or the issue of reservation that the HRD minister and the Law minister proposed.

How are these issues less important to the nation than the issue of who will be the next head of BJP? The entire media acts as a watch dog of BJP even when it is in oppostion when it ought to act as the watch dog of the government.

So I think even if we don't need a right wing media channel we atleast need a neutral channel which will talk about the issues facing the common man and not fixated with the BJP.

Assuming a two-party democracy, there are two basi...

2009-06-11T23:41:26.470+05:30

Assuming a two-party democracy, there are two basic aspects for a political party -
1) winning more than 50% of the vote in an election
2) running a Government for the entire 100%

All elections are thus 'divisive'. Every candidate fighting and winning a seat is 'divisive'. But only a particular party/set of people are described as 'divisive' so over time we even internalize that. Even the most 'noble' of your politicians win elections because they divided more people in their favor, say 30%, 40%. At best, we can have an argument over the degree of divisiveness - unless someone won with 100% vote.

And we then have a leader in Government declaring a particular set of people have first claim/higher priority on resources, and says that repeatedly. Yet nobody sees *that* as divisive!

What leads to this situation?

A look at the set of comments that seek to persona...

2009-06-11T23:16:57.812+05:30

A look at the set of comments that seek to personally villify everyone (Swapan, Arun Jaitley, Sudheendra, Advani, Shourie, Jaswant..) gives enough indication why the party lost. There is a lot of blame game and not as much constructive dialogue. For example, Arun Jaitley has successfully planned and executed many election campaings. He failed this time, but is it enough reason to hang him? Similarly, there is some substance in what Mr. Kulkarni has written. What is gained by personally attacking him instead of debating his assertions? On the same vein, Swapan is not a mouthpiece for the loony fringe, some of whom seem to hang out on this blog too. If everyone who writes for the media is castigated, you might as well start living in caves. I am frustated with the ELM too, but I know that the remedy is not all out war in which we are destined to lose but proper "strategy" (which involves both carrots and sticks). Having someone of the stature of Swapan helps the cause, does not damage it.

Finally, after reading Kanchan Gupta's response of rediff I think that there is not a wide chasm between his thinking and that of Swapan. The only major difference is that Kanchan thinks moving away from Hindutva wll not lure Muslims to BJP, so Hindutva is not the central problem that BJP faces (he does allude though that Hindutva may be blamed for some of the BJP's ills, though not all).

Everybody read the rejoinder of Anil Chawla here. ...

2009-06-11T22:33:35.099+05:30

Everybody read the rejoinder of Anil Chawla here.

http://www.samarthbharat.com/sudheendraletter.htm

Prasanna here is that pic. She was wearing Saree o...

2009-06-11T22:22:49.240+05:30

Prasanna here is that pic. She was wearing Saree on that day. Is she "liberal"? She hates RSS, Modi and other conservative folks (I've seen her spitting venom many times) then why she wasn't wearing jeans or salwar-kameez ?

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/lok-sabha-won-team-gandhi-readies-for-up/470377/

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Lalu-s-quota-quote/472596

Dear Swapan, >>see the uninformed comments ...

2009-06-11T21:03:06.911+05:30

Dear Swapan,

>>see the uninformed comments by Anonymous (June 3, 10:32 and 10:34)on Nirad Chaudhuri, one of the finest scholars of the Indian inheritance.

I am NOT that anonymous, but curious nevertheless:

What do you have to say about an assessment of Nirad Chuadhary by VS Naipaul, also an anglophile, and arguably the greatest living writer (of Indian extraction as well) of our time, thus:

“Chaudhuri, in spite of all the great names he takes, was not a scholar. He had no idea what scholarship meant. He held on to the idea only because it was the main part of his self-esteem.”

Swapan, On a lighter note, you chose to react to o...

2009-06-11T20:41:30.392+05:30

Swapan, On a lighter note, you chose to react to one comment on 'Advani coterie', but not some other comments that said you were ghost-presenting Jaitley's ideas.

ofcourse, what you choose to react to is your prerogative.

Swapan, Here is a report on Swami Vivekananda'...

2009-06-11T20:38:33.628+05:30

Swapan,
Here is a report on Swami Vivekananda's speech in US - http://www.vivekananda.net/NewspaperReports/21Sep93.html - The platform need not determine what we say - Truth shall.

When you use a random commenter to portray a sense of hurt ('Macaulay's Children'), a sense of balance is lost. This clubs legitimate criticism of that model of Education with the random uninformed jerk. Such painting with a very wide brush has been a successful tactic in other circles.

In another post you said this - "The energies of religious Hinduism vests with the gurus who tend to be patriotic but propagate universalism. "

It is difficult to be brief and also exact. "Tatvamasi" kind of brevity is rare. But choice of some words can indicate the process behind the thought. Universalism as a religious concept is a Christian one. The monotheistic idea that a All loving God will punish a non-believer in Him with eternal Hell needed reconciling. Hinduism is not monotheistic. The philosophy of Advaita is not that universalism either.

Through the ages, Neither Shankara Nor Vivekananda have hesitated from debating other doctrines and speaking out the truth that they found from ancient Hindu Vedas and Vedanta.

If you meant the present Gurus, some of them take the easy route of adopting all religious symbols in their logos. This is more of a marketing branding than result of any serious philosophical conviction. 'Universalism' could just be a convenient word to mask that. When they tour the west, they are unlikely to have the courage of Vivekananda to speak the truth - if they have it, they have not shown it. Some of them have shown their love of PR by being in all trouble spots and ensuring press coverage.

Such opinion might make me a 'Hysterical Hindu activist'. Well, I am not. I am just a guy trying to think stuff for myself.

Hi Swapanda Fitting response to some of the irrat...

2009-06-11T19:54:37.083+05:30

Hi Swapanda

Fitting response to some of the irrational criticism that has been levelled on you

Guys

For all those who are spewing venom on Swapanda-I cant think of a single columnist save him who has mounted a coherent and spirited intellectual challenge on the tyrannical stranglehold of left-libs on the public discourse.Yossarin of Offstumped was another though blogs have near zero reach .Inspirational Arun Shourie was always operating at an intellectual stratosphere and lets admit that his dense prose makes difficult reading.Ashok Malik does have a interesting perspective but prefers to maintain a low profile ).

In fact RSS which claims itself to be the intellectual fountainhead of Indian right nurtures extreme disdain for scholarship and whatever the name of the weekly magazine it publishes is marked by such shoddy and abysmal writing.And some of the guys whom it parades as intellectuals-well 'god' save us.And beyond Ram Swarup/Goel/Elst i can even think of any worthwhile scholars in the right side of the ideological divide).

Lesser said about Kulkarni the better.I have a suspicion that slimey spinmasters and Gandhee dynasty sycophants of Indian MSM deliberately provided excessive coverage to him to highlight how ideologically 'confused' and 'incoherent' BJP was. I would suspect that he could have been the force behind Advaniji’s ill advised attempt to repackage himself as a 'moderate'.Many of us admired Advaniji for taking on the despicable Nehruvian establishment and deterimental strangehold it had on the all spheres of Indian life.Metamorphosis that Advani attempted went against the raison detre of BJP.Accepting UndieTV awards ,giving emotionally charged soundbytes to the scheming Barkha Dutt and effectively Advani made a fool of himself in his attempt to reinvent himself.

Seriously a BJP diehard like me nearly decided to vote against the party seeing the way Mr Kulkarni made a fool of himself and the party in the media debates.This was when i was viewing what appeared to be a clearly orchestrated studio discussion conducted by a moderator (her own meteoric rise, according to well- informed media watchers, is attributable to her father being a influential media power broker) on the purported identity crisis confronting the BJP

While its understandable that independent but politically sympathetic columnist like you participating in TV discussion,its seriously defies any logic why idiotic and incoherent BJP representative needs to make a token presence in evry discussion on channels

For example there is despicable Undie TV journalist called Sonia Singh.This lady was running a campaign of calumny against BJP for any number of years .The lady never revaaled that her husband is RPN singh ,a babalog member of Rahul Gandhee brigade .I was shocked to see a media pic of that lady playing a dutiful wife to her now minister husband

To understand the give-n-forth happening in the BJ...

2009-06-11T19:45:30.560+05:30

To understand the give-n-forth happening in the BJP, I think its necessary to understand who's who in the national party.

Two caveats:

1. There is no democracy at any level in the BJP. But it works like a Corporate company. So better performers are eventually and invariably rewarded. But in which company do workers get to elect their managers?

2. Except some old hands like Joshi everyone else in the party including Rajnath Singh were handpicked by Advani. Some may not be Advani's favorites now, but they are there only becos of Advani.

Now to who's who in the party.

1. Advani's Coterie.
2. The RSS cabal.
3. Independents.

1. Advani's coterie includes his family, Jaitley, Sudheendra Kulkarni, Balbir Punj, Chandan Mitra, Swapan Dasgupta (but he may no longer have a voice, thats why he declines being a member), Ananth Kumar, Narendra Modi.

2. RSS cabal: All the RSS men on deputation. Almost all of them are corrupt. They came from Sangh looking for rewards or power corrupted them. But no point blaming them. When you are not accountable to anybody and have no political career yourself, you have all the time to indulge in silly things. The other RSS friendly section section includes the erstwhile Pramod Mahajan's team. Rajnath Singh, Vijay Goel, Gopinath Munde, Prakash Javadekar, Sudhanshu Mittal, Vinay Katiyar.

3. Independents: This group includes leaders like Joshi, Jaswant Singh, Yashwant Sinha, Shourie, Sushma, Bal Apte, Ravi Shankar Prasad, Rudy, Naqvi, Hussain. Most of them were mentored by Advani, but think for themselves. They currently have limited say in party affairs.

"I concede everyone's right to lampoon th...

2009-06-11T19:09:09.687+05:30

"I concede everyone's right to lampoon the media but I have my reasons for blending criticism with an extra dose of tolerance. If it had been left to a pro-Hindu media, I would have had to abandon my writing career a long time ago. The Hindu activist impatience with the orphans of Macualay and the "liberal arts" types verges on the hysterical."

Itni choti si baat par itna gussa, dada ? We know all this already, we can also imagine Mr. intellectual, we also have brain, there is no need to cite the examples of exceptional morons to make ur case. The void on the side of Right is well-known.

In the last one advice u can make money by advertising on ur blog also! Then u'll be less dependent on anti-Hindu media.